Report from the Select Committee on Pharmacy bill : together with the proceedings, minutes of evidence and index.

  • Great Britain. Parliament. House of Commons. Select Committee on Pharmacy Bill.
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1852
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    Mr. John Savory. 2 April 1852. 529. Was that always the intention of the Pharmaceutical Society in intro- ducing the word toxicology ?—Yes. 530. Has the Pharmaceutical Society carefully endeavoured to avoid everything in their education which should at all trench upon the medical profession ?—They have. 531. Has it not been their object to avoid the example of the Apothecaries’ Society, in making the class of persons to whom they refer, medical men?—Yes. 532. Do you consider that it is advantageous to have a class of persons devoting their exclusive attention to the business of chemists and druggists, who are not medical men; that the business is likely to be more effectually carried out by persons who are not medical men, but who devote their exclusive attention to it r —I do. 533. Do you think that the Pharmaceutical Society has tended to promote that object?—I think it has, and done a great deal of good. 534. Do you think it has in some degree diminished the jealousy which pre- viously existed between chemists and medical men ?—I think, certainly, on the first appearance of the Pharmaceutical Society, there was great jealousy between medical men and chemists and druggists ; but now that jealousy, I think, is dying away. 535. Do you think the scientific meetings of the society, to which medical men were invited, had a tendency to produce a good feeling between the two parties? —I do. .536. Do you think that when the medical men saw that the chemists were endeavouring to improve themselves in pharmacy and chemistry, and that thev excluded altogether the idea of becoming medical practitioners, it induced the medical profession to favour the Pharmaceutical Society?—I do. I have had an opportunity of speaking to a great many medical men, and I believe every one I have mentioned it to are in favour of this Bill. 537. Do you remember a deputation which waited upon Sir James Graham, in December 1841 ?—I remember there was such a deputation. 538. Do you remember Sir James Graham inquiring of the deputation whether they desired a charter of incorporation ?—I believe he did. 539. Do you recollect the deputation replying, that they look forward to making such a request, but that they wished, in the first instance, to establish their claim to it, by carrying their intent into more complete operation?—Yes; I remember that perfectly well. .540. Do you remember what Sir James Graham stated at the conclusion of the interview ?—It is so long ago that I cannot say. 541. Did the society find that, so long as they had no charter of incorporation, the medical bodies did not recognise them at all ?—Yes. 542. That there was a difficulty in obtaining any kind of recognition or commu- nication from other parties?—Yes, there was a very great difficulty. 543. And was not one of the objects of that interview to induce the Secretary of State to communicate with the president of the society in case of any measure being introduced into Parliament affecting the interests of the chemists and drug- gists ?—1 hat was the object as far as I recollect of the interview. 544. Have several other intervievis taken place at the Home Office?—There have been three or four, as far as I recollect ? 545. Did all the endeavours of the chemists to obtain the introduction of a Bill by Government prove abortive?—Yes, I believe every endeavour that we made failed. 540. And after Sir James Graham left office did they renew their efforts with his successor, Sir George Grey?—They did. 547. Were those efforts equally abortive?—Quite so. 548. Was any objection raised against the object which the Pharmaceutical Society had in view ?—1 believe that to every Bill before the present there were great objections; what the objections were at this moment I cannot call to mind, but I know that there were always objections. 549. Mr. Bouverie.] You went with the draft of a Bill to the Home Officer— No, 1 did not go there; I was unwell at the lime, but I recollect the circum- stance perfectly of the deputation going there. 550. With the draft of the Bill?—Yes. 551. And it was disapproved of?—It was disapproved of, and I believe every one that has been presented has been disapproved of. 552. Chairman.] Did the reason apply to the substance of the Bill, or to the time
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