The state and the student : a contribution to university reform / Ernest E. Greville.

  • Greville, Ernest E.
Date:
[1901?]
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    efforts of those professors who are honestly doing their utmost for their students. This was regarded as an amendment to the adoption of the report, but it was not seconded. The Rev. George Robertson, Slateford, thought that Dr Greville had started a very interesting and important question, and suggested that the figures and facts should be forwarded to the proper quarter. Dr Greville then proceeded to move : That returns be made showing (a) the number of hours spent by each professor in teaching his practical classes, ) the number of hours so spent by the assistants, (c) the amount paid by the students for such practical classes, etc. But, after he was supported by Mr Robertson, it was ruled in effect that the subject had been departed from by the adoption of the report. Both Dr Greville and Mr Robertson, as was understood, dissented. \_Note.—The motion was duly moved and seconded. Many of us are still at a loss to know why the Chairman ruled it out of order. The reason given that the subject had been departed from appears weak, because this stood as an independent motion quite apart from the adoption of the report.—E. G.] From the Edinburgh Evening Neivs, May iiih, 1901. Ernest E. Greville, M.B., 12 Teviot Place, Edinburgh, writes: Allow me to draw attention to a few points raised in your article of May 8th in regard to the decrease of students at Edinburgh University. You state the decrease of students in the Medical Faculty is 30 per cent. The official figures (page 12 of the recent report of the General University Council) are : 1890, 2003 medical students ; for T900, 1368—loss, 635. But, as pointed out by Dr Norman Walker, the real decrease is greater, because in 1890 the course covered four years, now it covers five years. Hence all students then graduating in the minimum time, would be counted once each successive year for four years and would then leave ; now they must stay another year, and are again counted, thus swelling the total. To realise the true decrease, we must subtract one-fifth from the present total. Thus one-fifth of 1368 is 273. The number of students now present, compared on equal conditions, would be 1095, as against 2003, showing a loss of 908. The real decrease is nearer 50 than 30 per cent. You note that students may spend two years at local Universities. It would help investigators if results were jDublished showing how far this option is used, and at what stage. Do men spend their